Starting Setups

Original WhisperFin

Measuring Fin Depth FD
Measuring Fin Length FL
Measuring Fin Distance From Tail DFT
Wing Angle Measurement
Measuring Binding Location Bf
measuring water ski binding location

The measurements listed in this database were taken using these industry standard techniques

These setups are called “starting setups” because they are just that—good starting points from which to develop your own personalized setup. Keep in mind that while these setups worked great for someone, that “someone” may have bindings, technique and stature that are completely different than yours. So whether you start with the generic installation setup that came with your fin, or with one of the following model-specific setups, I still recommend you do a little custom tuning for best personal results. And custom tuning is probably easier than you think. Just follow the tuning instructions that came with your fin, or go to: www.finwhispering.com/whisperfin-tuning

Not every ski built will be listed in these Starting Setups. If your ski isn’t listed, you can start with the setup for another ski of a similar size and character to yours. And if there is a setup listed for your ski but not in your size, adjust the listed setup as follows:

  • Move your bindings ½” for every inch of ski length difference (e.g. If the listed ski 1″ larger than yours, move your bindings forward ½”).
  • Change DFT .005″ for every inch of ski length difference (e.g. If the listed ski 1″ larger than yours, increase DFT by .005″).

 

Original Fin Starting Setups by Ski Brand

Connelly
Connelly Installation Note:

With Connelly’s unique new fin block, the adjustment set screws contact the top sheet of the ski before you can achieve the desired FD and FL with the WhisperFin. This is not a problem. You can either adjust the fin by hand without the use of the set screws, Dremel out a round hole through the top sheet for the set screws to pass through (do not use a standard drill bit as it may snag and crack the top sheet). Or you can simply force the set screws through the top sheet into the foam core (this works fine and does no structural or cosmetic damage).

* Notice the significant difference between the 66″ and 67″ DFT measurements. The 67″ setup was for a 35-off skier who was struggling with too much tip-bite. This short DFT strategy will work to reduce tip-grab for any sized ski. And note that it’s not the short DFT that reduces tip-bite, it’s the short leading edge location (LE).

65″

Nimble
Bf = 28.625
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.950
LE = 7.720

66″

Supportive
Bf = 29.125
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.905
LE = 7.665

67″

Anti Tip-grab
Bf = 29.625
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.805 *
LE = 7.565**

*The front (FL) set screw must be removed to achieve this DFT

**This setup can be made nimbler by increasing DFT by up to .080″  or until the tip starts grabbing

68″

65″

66″

67″

Supportive
Bf = 29.375
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.510
FL = 5.750
DFT = 1.880
LE = 7.630

 

68″

65″

66″

67″

Nimble
Bf = 29.375
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.762
DFT = 1.950
LE = 7.712

Supportive
Bf = 29.5
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.920
LE = 7.690

 

68″

D3

64″

Bf = 28.625
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.485
FL = 5.730
DFT = 1.945
LE = 7.675

65″

Bf = 29.25
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.520
FL = 5.755
DFT = 1.920
LE = 7.675

66″

Bf = 29.75
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.762
DFT = 1.920
LE = 7.682

67″

Bf = 30.125
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.925
LE = 7.685

68″

Bf = 30.625
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.920
LE = 7.690

64″

65″

66″

Bf = 29.65
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.525
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.945
LE = 7.705

67″

Bf = 30.15
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.955
LE = 7.715

68″

Bf = 30.65
Wing = 7°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.950
LE = 7.710

Goode

Wing Note: The setups here all assume small wing use. But most, if not all, of the current Goodes work best with the large wing run at 1.5° less angle than your normal small wing setting.

Note: These measurements are with the tips (FL) and head (DFT) of a normal caliper, not a slot caliper. FL measurements are very roughly .075″ shorter and DFT measurements about .010″ longer using a slot caliper, but these conversions vary widely depending on ski design.

65.75″

66.5″

Bf = 29.5
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.762
DFT = 1.830
LE = 7.592

67.25″

Bf = 29.625
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.762
DFT = 1.830
LE = 7.592

68″

Bf = 29.875
Wing = 9.5°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.758
DFT = 1.840
LE = 7.598

65.5″

Bf = 29.5
Wing = 9° Large
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.762
DFT = 1.810
LE = 7.572

67″

Bf = 29.625
Wing = 9.5° Large
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.762
DFT = 1.840
LE = 7.592

67.75″

Bf = 29.5
Wing = 9.5° Large
FD = 2.525
FL = 5.758
DFT = 1.850
LE = 7.608

68.5″

Bf = 29.875
Wing = 9° Large
FD = 2.525
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.880
LE = 7.640
An estimate that should be close

XTR CC
Nano 1 XTR

Original Fin

For PRO WhisperFin settings, click here

65″

66″

Aggressive
Bf = 28.875
Wing = 9.5°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.860
LE = 7.620

Less Tip-bite
Bf = 28.875
Wing = 9.5°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.810
LE = 7.570

67″

Aggressive
Bf = 29.125
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.765
DFT = 1.865
LE = 7.630

Less Tip-bite
Bf = 29.125
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.765
DFT = 1.820
LE = 7.585

68″

Aggressive
Bf = 29.375
Wing = 9.5°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.870
LE = 7.640

Less Tip-bite
Bf = 29.375
Wing = 9.5°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.820
LE = 7.590

65.75″

66.5″

Bf = 29.25
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.765
DFT = 1.935
LE = 7.700

Excellent tip hold out of turns, but if you experience tip-grab, shorten LE

67.25″

Bf = 29.375
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.765
DFT = 1.840
LE = 7.605

Set up to defend against tip-bite from tip-high approach to turns

68″

Bf = 29.625
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.765
DFT = 1.880
LE = 7.645

An accomplished Big Dawg’s setup

Nano 1 XT
Nano 1

Original Fin

For PRO WhisperFin settings, click here

64″

65.25″

Aggressive
Bf (N1) = 28.875
Bf (XT) = 28.875
Wing = 9.5°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.860
LE = 7.620

Less Tip-bite
Bf (N1) = 28.875
Bf (XT) = 28.875
Wing = 9.5°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.810
LE = 7.570

66″

Aggressive
Bf (N1) = 29
Bf (XT) = 29
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.765
DFT = 1.865
LE = 7.630

Less Tip-bite
Bf (N1) = 29
Bf (XT) = 29
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.765
DFT = 1.820
LE = 7.585

66.75″

Aggressive
Bf (N1) = 29.375
Bf (XT) = 29.125
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.870
LE = 7.640

Less Tip-bite
Bf (N1) = 29.375
Bf (XT) = 29.125
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.820
LE = 7.590

64.25″

65.75″

Bf = 28.75
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.535
FL = 5.765
DFT = 1.910
LE = 7.675

66.5″

Bf = 29
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.890
LE = 7.660

67.25″

68″

64″

65.5″

66.25″

Bf = 29.625
Wing = 9° Large
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.885
LE = 7.655

67″

HO

65″

66″

Bf = 28 ⅞
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.480
FL = 5.725
DFT = 1.980
LE = 7.705

67″

Bf = 28.75
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.480
FL = 5.725
DFT = 1.985
LE = 7.710

68″

KD

65″

Nimble
Bf = 28.625
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.500
FL = 5.740
DFT = 1.920
LE = 7.660

More Supportive
Bf = 28.625
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.515
FL = 5.750
DFT = 1.915
LE = 7.665

66″

Nimble
Bf = 29.125
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.510
FL = 5.750
DFT = 1.930
LE = 7.680

More Supportive
Bf = 29.25
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.900
LE = 7.670

67″

Nimble
Bf = 29.625
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.495
FL = 5.737
DFT = 1.893*
LE = 7.630
* Lengthen DFT until tip grabs

More Supportive

Bf = 29.75
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.915
LE = 7.675

Radar

Nimble – Start with these settings if you are light, or consider yourself a finesse skier. The more nimble your setup can be, the better the tip hold will be exiting turns and during the cut. Your setup is too nimble if the tail feels slippery at the end of turns.

More Supportive – Start with these settings if you consider yourself a powerful skier who tends to force the ski, if you tend to get tip-grab, or if the nimble settings make the tail feel too slippery.

These two setups are NOT at extreme ends of the setup spectrum. If anything, they bracket the middle third. So experimenting with either of these setups is encouraged. If you want more or less tail grip make the fin deeper or shallower. And it’s always a good idea to customize yawing tip-engagement by moving the fin back and forth (forward for more tip engagement and back for less). You want to be as far forward as your technique will allow before the tip starts grabbing occasionally.

For more customized tuning guidance see: WhisperFin Ski-tuning –101 and the Whisperfin Ski-tuning Flowchart

65″

Bf = 29.25
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.510
FL = 5.740
DFT = 1.950
LE = 7.690

63.5″

Bf = 28.625
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.440
FL = 5.695
DFT = 1.970
LE = 7.665

66″

Nimble
Bf = 29.625
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.510
FL = 5.745
DFT = 1.950
LE = 7.695

More Supportive
Bf = 29.75
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.540
FL = 5.770
DFT = 1.920
LE = 7.690

67″

Nimble
Bf = 30.125
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.510
FL = 5.740
DFT = 1.940
LE = 7.680

More Supportive
Bf = 30.25
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.935
LE = 7.695

68″

Nimble
Bf = 30.75
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.510
FL = 5.750
DFT = 1.960
LE = 7.710

More Supportive
Bf = 30.875
Wing = 9°
FD = 2.530
FL = 5.765
DFT = 1.940
LE = 7.705

69.5″

Bf = 31.125
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.520
FL = 5.755
DFT = 1.950
LE = 7.705

65″

Bf = 29.625
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.510
FL = 5.730
DFT = 1.995
LE = 7.725

67″

Bf = 30.75
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.510
FL = 5.750
DFT = 1.960
LE = 7.710

69″

Bf = 32.0
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.525
FL = 5.760
DFT = 1.945
LE = 7.705

71″

Bf = 32.5
Wing = 8°
FD = 2.520
FL = 5.755
DFT = 1.945
LE = 7.700